Wednesday, August 12, 2009

The Great “Un-American” Debate

written by: strmclouds

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty", Thomas Jefferson. These timeless words hold so much truth. From one of the founders of our nation, these few simple words are as true today as they were when they were first uttered so many years ago. As conservative, democratic and independent Americans gather at town hall meetings across this great nation, they face a barrage of charges and insults from those who would claim the right to judge what makes an American. Here is a compilation as to what Democrats think of town hall dissenters:

The Democratic National Committee ran ads claiming these people are “angry mobs”
Nancy Pelosi says they are people carrying swastikas
Harry Reid accused the protesters of trying to "sabotage" the democratic process
Barbra Boxers claims they are phony protesters because they are well dressed
WH Press Spokesman Robert Gibbs claims they are the "Brooks Brothers Brigade" Astroturfers paid and flown in by the Republican Party
Congressman Dingell says Health Care Reform protesters remind him of Ku Klux Klan members.
UPDATE Aug. 13: Harry Reid today says protesters are are disrupting town halls with "lies, innuendo and rumor," and not letting others speak. They are, he said, "evil-mongers."

Called mobs and Nazis, harassed and threatened for simply voicing their opinions, these everyday Americans have become modern day symbols to what Jefferson was expressing.

A letter written as part of a column in USA Today Nancy Pelosi (D- California) in concert with Steny Hoyer (D-Maryland), charged that those Americans who would exercise their constitutional rights to free speech and expression are "Un-American". The letter states: "These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views -- but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply “Un-American”. What a contrast to the words of Thomas Jefferson, the principal author of the declaration of independence, Vice President and twice elected to the office of President of the United States. I wonder does the arrogant and haughty Madame Pelosi purport to know better than Mr. Jefferson what makes an American? One must wonder if she knows better than the current Secretary of State?

""I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." Hillay Clinton

To the Honorable Madame Pelosi and Mr. Hoyer, I offer the following words: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" Thomas Jefferson. Perhaps Madame Pelosi would like to accuse Jefferson of being “Un- American”? If Jefferson were alive today, can there be any doubt but that he would support the boisterous and vociferous opposition being raised by our citizens? Would these same ugly accusations be thrown at one of the founding fathers?

The pending health care bill being advanced by President Obama has sparked heated debate both in the halls of congress and in the churches, libraries and locations throughout America. It is a bill that promises, on its face, to provide health care to all Americans but in reality it's so much more than that. Many of its provisions assault the beliefs and traditions that millions of Americans hold dear. Are those voices not to be heard? Thomas Jefferson again offered us some insight that is truly astounding and nearly prophetic in its intent. "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical". However, our own President Obama has called those who oppose his healthcare plan, cap and trade energy bill and other legislation “obstructionists". Again I wonder would he level the same charge against Jefferson?

Let’s examine a few more quotes from our esteemed Democratic leadership shall we? In addition, I will post a few statements from some of our founders and leaders of democracy and freedom from our history.

"I think we all have something to lose ... if we let cable television come to town hall meetings and kill health care reform for another year, and put the special interests back in charge,” WH Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

“The basis of our government being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate for a moment to prefer the latter.” Thomas Jefferson

"The Republicans and their allied groups — desperate after losing two consecutive elections and every major policy fight on Capitol Hill — are inciting angry mobs of a small number of rabid right wing extremists funded by K Street Lobbyists to disrupt thoughtful discussions about the future of health care in America taking place in Congressional Districts across the country," Democratic National Committee spokesman Brad Woodhouse

“The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable.” “We have staked the whole future of America civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future…upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God.” James Madison

"In spite of the loud, shrill voices trying to interrupt town hall meetings and just throw a monkey wrench into everything, we're going to continue to be positive and work hard." Senate Majority leader Harry Reid

“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” George Washington.

So there you have it folks. Some quotes from those “Un-American” shrill voiced mobs that founded the greatest republic the world has ever known and who worked hard to ensure that our liberty, our freedom would never be taken away by a tyrannical government. I leave you with one final quote I feel says it all about this dishonest Liberal attempt to paint themselves as decent and civilized proponents of well mannered debate while those who disagree are labeled as mobs and thugs.

"Be not intimidated nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These as they are often used are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice...” John Adams (2nd President of the Unites States).

God Bless America!

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At 8/12/2009 9:51 PM, Blogger whitecollargreenspaceguy said...

The Government already has the funds to pay for Universal Health Care. It is time to stop the madness and violence at the health care reform meetings. Using shift work for white collar jobs could cut the cost of the 500 million square feet of office space currently in used by the federal governe=ment by up to 50%. This would save enough money to provide universal health care. It could also reduce the carbon footprint by 50%. For details go to:

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"Using Shift work for white collar jobs to greatly reduce the fiscal and environmental cost of new office space"
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At 8/13/2009 12:30 PM, Blogger LeaMea said...

Great article Strmclouds. Everyone needs to read that to show just how far our current government has strayed for what our Founding Fathers established for this country. For those (such as whitecollargreenspaceguy) who think our government's job is to be a mother to us why not move to a country who's citizens are willing to mother you - we're not. Strmclouds thank you so much for pointing out how our country was meant to be run and how far we have strayed. God Bless the USA!

At 8/13/2009 1:09 PM, Blogger K9AF said...

I find it interesting that Harry Reid NOW wants to 'work hard'. This would be a first. There can be NO doubt as to whom the real 'obstructionists' are. Ask a valid question, or make a comment not in lock-step agreement with them, and you will be villified, and called all kinds of names.
I wouldn't trust the federal government to orchestrate a pillow fight, much less allow them carte blanche over my health care.

At 8/13/2009 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you are saying that the govt can pay for healthcare already?Hmmmmm...I cannot help but wonder why it is then that the Govt has advanced and with dawn half a dozen different ideas for funding it? Perhaps they are unaware of your plan to save money by adjusting work schedules..LOL.Its astounding that people like this have the mental capacity to even turn on a computer.

At 8/13/2009 3:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent essay! it doesn't surprise me thast idiots like Pelosi, Reid and Frank infest congress, nor that someone with no real experience, Obama, can run for president. What surprises me is that 60 million Americans are too stupid to realize what they are giving up, freedom, for false promises of security and comfort. We have bred ourselves into stupidity.


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